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| Credetemi questo è uno dei dilemmi ke porto avanti da anni (almeno 2) e xò penso ke muoia cmq xkè nn bersaglia... buuuuuuuuuuu!!! |
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Text FLIP: Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field (excluding this monster). Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster Card from your Fusion Deck. The Fusion Monster is destroyed at the end of the turn this effect is activated. Rulings # Tributing 1 monster is a cost. # You must use "Summoner of Illusions"' effect when it is flipped face-up, either by Flip Summon or by being attacked. If you have no cards in your Fusion Deck, the effect cannot activate and you do not Tribute 1 monster. # If you use "Dimensionhole" on the Fusion Monster summoned by this card's effect, it will return during your next Standby Phase and not be destroyed. # If the Fusion Monster summoned by this card's effect is flipped face-down it will not be destroyed during your End Phase, since the condition is reset when the monster becomes face-down. # [Re: Centrifugal Field] Unlike "De-Fusion", the Fusion Material Monsters Special Summoned with "Centrifugal Field" do not have to have been used to Fusion Summon the Fusion Monster. In fact, that Fusion Monster does not have to have been properly Fusion Summoned at all (it could have been Special Summoned with "Magical Scientist" or "Summoner of Illusions" instead). # [Re: Dark Balter the Terrible] The first sentence of this card's text means that monsters such as "Beastking of the Swamps" cannot be used as a substitute for one of the required Fusion Material Monsters. You CAN use the effect of "Magical Scientist" or "Summoner of Illusions" to Special Summon this card like any other Fusion Monster. # [Re: Different Dimension Gate] When a Fusion Monster that was Special Summoned with "Summoner of Illusions" or "Magical Scientist" is removed from play with "Different Dimension Gate", it is not destroyed or returned to the Fusion Deck when it returns to the field, and it no longer has "Magical Scientist's" restriction that prevents it from attacking your opponent's Life Points directly. # [Re: Fiend Skull Dragon] You cannot use substitute Fusion Material Monsters such as "Beastking of the Swamps" to Fusion Summon this card. You can use the effects of "Metamorphosis", "Magical Scientist", and "Summoner of Illusions" to Special Summon this card. # [Re: Fusion Gate] Fusion Monsters Special Summoned without "Polymerization" while "Fusion Gate" is on the field are still considered properly Summoned by a Fusion Summon. So they may be the target of "Monster Reborn", "Call of the Haunted", etc. (This does not apply to Fusion Monsters Special Summoned by the effects of other cards, such as "Magicial Scientist" or "Summoner of Illusions".) # [Re: Interdimensional Matter Transporter] When a Fusion Monster is returned to the field with "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" the same turn it was Special Summoned with "Summoner of Illusions" or "Magical Scientist", the Fusion Monster is not destroyed or returned to the Fusion Deck. # [Re: My Body as a Shield] "My Body as a Shield" can only be used against effects that will destroy monsters at that time. So you cannot use "My Body as a Shield" when "Tribe-Infecting Virus" is summoned; you can only use it in response to the activation of "Tribe-Infecting Virus"'s effect, at which point the effect of "Tribe-Infecting Virus" is negated and "Tribe-Infecting Virus" is destroyed. Also, you cannot use "My Body as a Shield" against cards whose effects will not destroy a monster right away, so you cannot use "My Body as a Shield" against "Jigen Bakudan", "Ekibyo Drakmord", "Magical Hats", "Steel Scorpion", "Toon Monsters", "Thunder Nyan Nyan", "Gradius' Option", "Summoner of Illusions", "Limiter Removal", "Call of the Haunted", "Premature Burial", or "Autonomous Action Unit". # [Re: Skill Drain] "Skill Drain" will not affect lingering effects or conditions that are left over from a previous effect. For example, if you Special Summon a Fusion Monster with "Summoner of Illusions", and then "Skill Drain" is activated afterwards, the Fusion Monster is still destroyed in the End Phase. If you Special Summon a Fusion Monster with "Magical Scientist", and then "Skill Drain" is activated, the Fusion Monster cannot attack your opponent's Life Points directly, and is returned to the Fusion Deck at the end of the turn.
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| Come vedete il ruling di netrep non risponde alla nostra domanda... Ho visto anche quello del drago teschio demone e non dice niente neanche quello.. |
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| In effetti la situazione è piuttosto in dubbio, e peraltro (ma non è una novità...) non ci sono ruling specifici a riguardo... Tutto sta nello stabilire se l'effetto di distruzione dell'Evocatore faccia parte o meno del suo effetto flip... Secondo me sono due effetti differenti, e quindi Drago Teschio Demone a fine turno dovrebbe essere distrutto comunque.
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SCOPRI: Offri 1 mostro sul tuo Terreno come Tributo (escluso questo mostro). Evoca tramite Evocazione Speciale 1 Carta Mostro Fusione dal tuo Fusion Deck. Il Mostro Fusione è distrutto alla fine del turno in cui questa carta viene attivata. La soluzione sta li secondo me.. Perche dice che il mostro è distrutto il turno in cui questa carta è stata attivata. L'attivazione fa parte dell'effetto dell'evocatore,quindi se il drago dice che nega gli effetti flip, l'effetto dell'evocatore di distruggere il mostro scelto non va. Posso anche aver detto una stupidata ma dopo averci ragionato è cosi secondo me. RULING Offrire un Tributo è il Costo di Attivazione. Se non hai mostri nel Fusion Deck, non dovrai offrire il Tributo. Il mostro da evocare va scelto in Risoluzione. Il mostro Fusione è evocato in modo inappropriato. Se non hai più Zone mostro libere in catena, questo effetto scompare e il mostro scelto resta nel Fusion Deck. Se il mostro Fusione viene Coperto o Rimosso da effetti temporanei, non verrà distrutto in End Phase. Se c'è “Risucchia Abilità”, dovrai ugualmente offrire un Tributo, ma non evocherai alcun mostro Fusione. Non puoi evocare i mostri Fusione ad Evocazione Specifica e ad Evocazione Unica.
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